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Following the same vein as yesterday for class/article ideas.  [Poll #1625942]

Date: 2010-09-30 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenness.livejournal.com
Where starter garb is defined as...?

Starter rapier armor is presumably the bare minimum pants, shirt, vest to be legal?

Date: 2010-09-30 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alysten.livejournal.com
Think "the new person" or someone "on a budget". We hear a lot about not being able to afford to play. And the current royals have made it their mission to "attract and retain" new people.

I am wondering what is a reasonable price point for creating a good, long lasting costume/armor.

Date: 2010-09-30 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenness.livejournal.com
The SCA does have a dedicated loaner garb functionality: Golden Key.

Here's the thing: You can't price yourself at a loss. And you should not devalue your time excessively.

If you did a super-simple vest in various sizes, draw-string pants (though you could probably skip pants as mundane pants will pass at a distance) and a simple shirt with the armpit reinforcement, you might be able to keep it under $50.

Starter garb is easier to keep inexpensive if you stick to t-tunics (with gores and set-in sleeves rather than actual Ts if you want since it's just as easy, long and short hemlines). You can stay under $50 casually. Anything more complicated is going to run more time and materials and bump you over 50 - such as irish dresses w/shifts. But a t-tunic dress, with a little bit of curve to the fit, with pretty trim, can get someone a long way. A long, gored dress for me averages 4 yards of fabric and 3 yards of trim for neck and sleeves. Add a trim-and-cloth belt... and even with cheap fabric and trim, your materials are already over $20. Luckily, these things are fast to put together. :)

I guess what I'm saying is: a better way to solve the "can't afford to play" thing is to teach people to sew. Building your own is always going to be cheaper. People on a budget know this. (Been there, done that, still have the 10 gored cotton skirt.)

The starter kit for the new person is a more reasonable price point to shoot for. And it's probably around $50 for a simple dress or $25-30 for a nice tunic. Broadcloth + serger? Probably brings the price down a little.

The starter fencing kit - again, you need to cover your materials and at least some of your time. If you use different materials (less linen), and simpler cuts (less time), can you realistically price a shirt and vest at $50?

Date: 2010-09-30 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenness.livejournal.com
I ramble for my own thought process rather than to tell you what you already know...

But now I want to re-make some of my early garb in linen. :)

Date: 2010-09-30 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alysten.livejournal.com
These are not for my price/list. It would be for articles on garb/armor construction.

Date: 2010-09-30 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenness.livejournal.com
Ok, the math still works, I'm just less worried about you working your fingers bloody. ;)

Date: 2010-09-30 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alysten.livejournal.com
Nope. Apparently I belong to the fop. ;-)

Date: 2010-09-30 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenness.livejournal.com
He's certainly happy to keep your sewing machine running, yes. :D

Give the Fop an inch and he'll take the whole bolt... ;)

Date: 2010-09-30 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] argent-tyger.livejournal.com
pfft just one? please!

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