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alysten ([personal profile] alysten) wrote2009-10-08 04:50 pm

Culinary question...

Is beef tallow able to be consumed by kosher folks?

[identity profile] femkederoas.livejournal.com 2009-10-08 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Would you like me to ask on the SCA-cooks list? Annoying Girl will undoubtedly answer. But it must be said, she is Jewish and does keep kosher, so would be a reliable source in this case.

[identity profile] alysten.livejournal.com 2009-10-08 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Lets see what the LJ hive mind says first, before invoking Annoying Girl.

[identity profile] femkederoas.livejournal.com 2009-10-08 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
There is always the issue of getting the Genie back in the bottle afterward, I admit. ;-)

[identity profile] kragore.livejournal.com 2009-10-08 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Should I point my resident Jew, Shu_Al over?
- k.
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[identity profile] woodwindy.livejournal.com 2009-10-09 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
Usual disclaimers here, but... I *believe* the issue with beef tallow is that it has to come from a cow that was killed in kosher fashion, which is difficult to determine as far as most modern supplies go. If you get it from a kosher butcher, you should be good.

Note that it counts as a meat product, so it can't be combined with dairy ingredients in a particular dish -- i.e., it makes anything it's in a meat dish.

You can use goose fat as a kosher substitute, though!

[identity profile] alysten.livejournal.com 2009-10-09 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
That actually has potential. Especially what's given in the larder for Yule. I wanted to make sure I had a non-pork option for larding meats.

[identity profile] kragore.livejournal.com 2009-10-09 03:11 pm (UTC)(link)
After checking with my resident Jew, she replies that Woodwindy's got it - long as the beef was killed kosher. (normal "do not mix with Dairy" restrictions apply.)
- K.

[identity profile] alysten.livejournal.com 2009-10-09 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Awesome! Now...next question, where can I get kosher tallow in Philly? Hmmmm.

[identity profile] kragore.livejournal.com 2009-10-09 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
A kosher butcher. I wouldn't trust anything less to actually be kosher. Typing in "kosher butcher philly" brought up a number of locations.
- k.

[identity profile] wingblaze.livejournal.com 2009-10-09 02:55 pm (UTC)(link)
What if the beef tallow came from a cow that was born without legs? Then it doesn't have cloven feet.

This is a good one for ianraven.

[identity profile] alysten.livejournal.com 2009-10-09 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I was hoping he'd have spoken up by now... I will probably ask him tomorrow.

[identity profile] aryll.livejournal.com 2009-10-10 07:59 am (UTC)(link)
Do they often come without legs? All the ones I see wandering around here tend to have a full complement.