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alysten ([personal profile] alysten) wrote2009-09-21 06:30 pm

Turkey...

Its not evil.  It's within period.  People actually ate it.  There are days when I think I am the only person who thinks it would be cool to play with this bird in an SCA setting.  After all, we don't have a lot of large birds available to us.  Last time I checked, they frowned upon us using swans and peacock.

Edit: And... its not as if I would ever serve potato or tomato... those killed people and were outright banned in most courts.

[identity profile] hsifeng.livejournal.com 2009-09-21 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Not the same turkey as our modern domestic fowl though, right?

[identity profile] alysten.livejournal.com 2009-09-21 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it would have been more like the wild turkey in flavor. And not full of hormones and antibiotics. I am hoping some hunter friends can help me out with one or two this year.

[identity profile] hsifeng.livejournal.com 2009-09-21 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Woo hoo for friends who hunt! *grin*

[identity profile] loosecanon.livejournal.com 2009-09-21 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
As I am led to understand, it was popularised in Italy first, and slowly began to fill the place of Bustard.
Wild turkeys I have eaten have been remarkably similar to dry goose.

DiPaola's Turkey Farm may be able to hook you up, or Grigg's Quail Farm.
Now is the time to arrange it, they put them on the lot for Thanksgiving.

Swan is illegal for some annoying reason. Ask me about peacock some day when you need a laugh... I owe one a good roasting. And they are *loud*.

[identity profile] aryll.livejournal.com 2009-09-22 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
Swan is actually illegal? I would be interested in finding out why.

[identity profile] aryll.livejournal.com 2009-09-22 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
A quick Google is simply telling me that swans are royal property in England, which I knew, but nothing about the US. Are they simply non-native and thus unavailable, or are they actually illegal here too?

[identity profile] loosecanon.livejournal.com 2009-09-22 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)
In doing research, I find that in the US, the Giant Swan was hunted to extinction, a few states have a Tundra Swan season, and Mute Swans are fair game in a couple of states, as they are an invasive, destructive ( period! ) bird.
Delaware seems to be one of the Mute Swan states.

Trumpeter Swan is a protected species due to overhunting.

[identity profile] alysten.livejournal.com 2009-09-22 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
The frowning upon part has more to do with people having a moral objection to eating swan and peacock I think more than anything else. Personally, it could be fun to play with a really large bird.

[identity profile] aryll.livejournal.com 2009-09-23 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
I hear ostrich recipes are period, if you're looking for large birds. ;)

[identity profile] alysten.livejournal.com 2009-09-23 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess I should clarify. A large bird to gallontine, but not too large that it will not fit into an oven. ;-)

Yon Turkey Was Brede Here, My Lord by James of Odo

[identity profile] alysten.livejournal.com 2009-09-22 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Spain-, 1502
Portugal -1510
Italy- 1521-2
Belgium- 1524
England-1524
France- 1530
Germany- 1530
Sweden- 1550
Norway- 1550+
Denmark- 1550+
Ireland-1600
Russia- 1600
India- 1612 (in Goa via Portugal)
Persia- 1607

He was the start of my research of turkey.

Re: Yon Turkey Was Brede Here, My Lord by James of Odo

[identity profile] loosecanon.livejournal.com 2009-09-23 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Very cool. I wonder how fast they started breeding for big.