alysten: (SCArms)
alysten ([personal profile] alysten) wrote2010-06-23 04:58 pm

Name that heraldry...

Any ideas what this is?  We were thinking a pelican.  But were also unsure.


And other charges IanRaven and I found amusing today:

[identity profile] femkederoas.livejournal.com 2010-06-23 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder if these charges have specific relation to ecclesiastical heraldry - given the bishops' mitres on top?

[identity profile] alysten.livejournal.com 2010-06-23 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
These are from the heraldry link in the German Yahoo group posted today.

http://codicon.digitale-sammlungen.de/Blatt_bsb00002481,00001.html
Edited 2010-06-23 21:04 (UTC)

[identity profile] femkederoas.livejournal.com 2010-06-23 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I noticed. ;-) I just wonder if there is a separate ecclesiastical heraldry "language" in use by the 16th century?

[identity profile] alysten.livejournal.com 2010-06-23 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I am not sure. The first part of the book is general heraldic devices. Some of them were pretty interesting. I know the pelican in piety/vulning is also a very popular image in churches and such. I haven't seen other birds usually depicted in this fashion. However me not being a herald, have absolutely no idea what exactly I am looking at.

We named the others "I'm so saaaaad", "Bishop Cares-a-lot" and "You're dead my saint". There were many decapitated parts devices as well, but they were a little gruesome (like the two heads impaled on pikes)

[identity profile] lumineaux.livejournal.com 2010-06-23 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
It looks like a sort of spastic emu who just figured out that vulning oneself hurts.

[identity profile] alysten.livejournal.com 2010-06-23 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
We thought it could have been a drive by or some other form of bird killing. And the rainbow coloring was a bit odd. Did they have emus in Germany? Could something like this pass our Heralds? Oh so many questions.

[identity profile] lumineaux.livejournal.com 2010-06-24 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
Could something like this pass SCA heralds? Yes, if you produced a lot of examples of it in period.

Pink pelicans are not unknown in period art. In the Aberdeen Bestiary (see my icon) the Pelicans are pink. They also kill their own young for being really annoying, and then bring them back to life by feeding them their blood. Weird critters, Pelicans.

[identity profile] alysten.livejournal.com 2010-06-24 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
They also kill their own young for being really annoying, and then bring them back to life by feeding them their blood. Weird critters, Pelicans.

You learn something new every day. Totally awesome.

[identity profile] femkederoas.livejournal.com 2010-06-23 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd guess more of a flamingo. Or, as Dad calls them, Flaming-O.

[identity profile] lumineaux.livejournal.com 2010-06-24 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
And everyone knows that flamingos = pelicans.